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Where have all the accountants gone?

Angry Accountants

Where have all the accountants gone? Long time passing. Where have all the accountants gone? Long time ago. Where have all the accountants gone? They left the Big Four every one. When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn? So continuing with our series on options for accountants who are leaving the Big Four, here are a few possibilities (click on the links for more info): 1.

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I think I Will Leave My Job at the Big Four to Go Work for a Small Firm

Angry Accountants

Another avenue of escape from the Big Four is to go work for a small shop with two or three principals and a handful of associate accountants. This is an attractive option for those who don't like being a small fish in a big pond: And would rather be a big fish in a small pond: But before you jump ponds, be aware of what you are getting into. Talk to people who have done it recently -- especially those at the firm you are going to.

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Uncle Sam Wants YOU to Be His Accountant

Angry Accountants

Ever think of leaving the Big Four to go work for Uncle Sam? He already has like a billion accountants working for him. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics estimates that government accountants and auditors averaged the following yearly salaries in 2008: Federal executive branch: $84,520 Local government: $56,160 State government: $52,560 The starting salary of junior accountants and auditors with the federal government was $28,862 in 2007.

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Arnold Schwarzenegger in. The Accountant

Angry Accountants

The following is a great late-night video to watch after a short potty/vending machine break from crunching numbers. The questions is -- did these Angry Accountants make this video at 3 AM after their brains ceased to function from being overworked, or is this the under-utilized group with too much time on their hands during the un-busy season?

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How to Build the Ideal HR Team

HR doesn’t exist in a vacuum. This work impacts everyone: from the C-Suite to your newest hire. It also drives results. Learn how to make it all happen in Paycor’s latest guide.

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I Don't Like Working as an Accountant at the Big 4, Maybe I Should Go to Law School?

Angry Accountants

One of our readers asked whether we were aware of people leaving the Big 4 to take nice jobs. Of course. But it depends on what you call a nice job, and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This is a good topic, so we will dedicate a few separate posts to it, exploring different avenues of departure from the Big 4. One very smart/dumb move that a lot of Big 4 accountants make is to leave the Big 4 to go to law school.

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Forced to Work Absurd Hours = Intentional Infliction of Emotional Distress

Angry Accountants

Have you ever been asked to work on a firm holiday, a scheduled vacation, or until 5 in the morning FOR NO GOOD REASON? It's one thing for a professional, such as an accountant, to work long hours when a particular project requires it. It's a completely different thing, however, to be forced to work at absurd hours simply because a particular manager requires it.

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Daddy's Little Tax Deduction Takes a Tax on Accountant Mommy Both at Home and at Work

Angry Accountants

I heard from a working mother accountant yesterday. She works at Ernst & Young and has wonderful things to say about EY's treatment of working mothers. Just to give you a taste of how flexible EY was with maternity leave -- when she told them that she had decided to quit the firm rather than go on maternity leave because she wanted to take more time off to spend with her newborn than the existing maternity leave schedule permitted, the firm said, "Don't quit.

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Salaries in New York

Angry Accountants

Here is some salary data for New York from Glassdoor: Deloitte Salaries in New York City - Glassdoor Salary Ernst & Young Global Salaries in New York City - Glassdoor Salary KPMG Salaries in New York City - Glassdoor Salary PricewaterhouseCoopers Salaries in New York City - Glassdoor Salary

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Sometimes, there is no other way out.

Angry Accountants

Sometimes, when we don't see any way out, we just have to break through the wall. (Think Kool -Aid man.) Sometimes that applies to those with an accounting job that hate every day of their lives, and sometimes that applies to those who have lost their accounting job and hate every day of their lives looking for another accounting job. Below is an excerpt from an email a reader recently sent to us.

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Introduction to Angry Accountants

Angry Accountants

Unhappy. Very very very unhappy. If you are an unhappy accountant at one of the Big 4 or another big accounting firm, Angry Accountants is the place for you. Non-partner accountants at the big accounting firms have been exploited for decades: long hours, high stress, infliction of emotional and physical distress, low low compensation, and no overtime pay.

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Planning Your Restaurant's Path to Profitability

Speaker: James Kahler, COO of Full Course

Ever wondered where to splurge and where to safely conserve when it comes to operating and growing your restaurant? 🤔 Join James Kahler, COO of Full Course and industry visionary, in this new webinar where he'll talk all about best practices to invest in your restaurant's success! Whether you're a new business or an established restaurant, a seasoned pro or a rookie, you'll learn the keys to sustainable success in this competitive industry.

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Overtime Lawsuits Against the Big 4

Angry Accountants

Q: What's better for your health than sitting in a cubicle hunched over laptop staring at glaring white spreadsheets in dim light for 8 hours every day for years on end? A: Sitting in a cubicle hunched over laptop staring at glaring white spreadsheets in dim light for 18 hours every day for years on end -- and not getting paid for it ! Before: After: There are currently a number of class action lawsuits pending against the Big 4 relating to the firms' practice of not paying overtime wages to jun

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Salary Cuts at the Big 4?

Angry Accountants

Word on the street is that E&Y might be anticipating that its competitor firms will soon announce compensation adjustments, and that E&Y plans to match those cuts after they are announced. Sounds a lot like parallel conduct in an oligopolistic market. If there is any evidence of an understanding or agreement between the Big 4 as to salaray cuts, it could well be a federal antitrust law violation.

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Salaries in San Francisco

Angry Accountants

Here is some data on Big 4 salaries in San Francisco from Glassdoor: KPMG Salaries in San Francisco - Glassdoor Salary PricewaterhouseCoopers Salaries in San Francisco - Glassdoor Salary Ernst & Young Global Salaries in San Francisco - Glassdoor Salary Deloitte Salaries in San Francisco - Glassdoor Salary

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